Bloq PQ NDP Relations

That is persistently the question. Is it better to have a government, at all. ?

They can be handy. But when they too behave harmfully there isn’t a lot gained.

The ethos of the last 20 or so years, probably started by Reagen,
is making marginal reductions in tax offset by categorical and primary cuts to value. Would you rather pay 100% of the tax for 100% of the services and structures, or pay 89% of the tax for 31% of the features? It’s a big joke
because the richer people are the more able to replace it all,
but it’s usually the poor talk about anarchism.
The right wing are like some sugarred up high sodium trans fats version of anarcheo. We’ll make the government a worthless joke and reduce tax by 1%
Government only exists to do good, collectively. It has no other basis for existing. Dwelling on the last paragraph of the article mostly…
On the specific of the Bloq candidate who said the people in the riding would never accept a native mp,
I did hear Duceppe, in English, discuss it, saying that the candidate regretted his wording and has apologized but also contextualized quite a bit. The candidate has worked much with native communities and done much for them. With some suggestion that this wasn’t his racist campaign wedge but his observation of the electorate. Hopefully he is proven wrong.
There’s no question that Layton is a standup guy who prides himself immensely on the whole progressive card, he will tirelessly discuss, he will be honest about how it all shakes down. I still feel bad for the smear job done on Ignatieff and others. And tend to see harper as the bush cheney pnac candidate just as the harris govt in ontario had seemed an american invasion. Many don’t identify with the Liberals obviously, but it was all Canada that was shown weak as this obnoxious U.S. state politics bowevilled itself in here. Smashing up the liberals and civil service and international traditions of the country. Angry at judges, angry at all opinions but their own often freakish ones.
Nonetheless bloq relations with first nations is deeply inevitably a trouble spot. Quebec’s right to be a nation… on Native Land. It is both progressive and regressive, both self-determination and suppression. Layton’s again better positioned than the liberals to handle those things. His trustworthiness and believability, agree or not, aerates issues like that. Aeration is good. It calms people.

Bloc leaves aboriginal voters on sidelines

By PEGGY CURRAN, The Gazette April 26, 2011 7:33 AM Comments (1)

MONTREAL – René Kistabish has a quick answer when asked what’s going to happen on May 2.

“There’s going to be a fight.”

Born in Amos, Kistabish jokingly calls himself an Algocree – a nod to his Cree and Algonquin heritage. Now he lives in Val d’Or, a hub for aboriginal people like himself who love the outdoors but are old enough to appreciate the services of a regional centre.

It doesn’t take much to get him going on his favourite topics.

Like the secret of hunting for bear – “just wait there and he’ll come to you” – or his views on the nonsense of the national gun registry – “a big waste of money.”

And then there’s politics, which he follows religiously, even though he doesn’t think much of the candidates – and doesn’t plan to vote.

So when Bloc Québécois leader Gilles Duceppe paid a visit to the Native Friendship Centre in Val d’Or the other day, Kistabish was happy to stay back, holding court in the cafeteria.

Not that Kistabish or most of the other aboriginal people at the centre that morning were asked to join in.

During Duceppe’s campaign swings around the province, most events are by-invitationonly, brief photo ops aimed at giving the television crews the images they need without involving too much mingling with the public.

Not that there have been many well-wishers standing on the sidelines, but there didn’t seem to be much effort put into finding them either.

In the crucial third week of the campaign, with a succession of public opinion polls showing the Bloc in a threeway race with the Conservatives and the New Democrats, Duceppe divided his time between television and radio interviews and preaching to the converted at party functions.

When Duceppe visited a CEGEP in St. Hyacinthe, the Bloc leader spent nearly all his time at a textile workshop looking at machinery. Only by chance did he meet up with a handful of students in the corridor on the way out.

Duceppe’s visit to Val d’Or was designed to shore up support in the riding of Abitibi-Baie-James-Nunavik-Eeyou. At 843,721 square kilometres, it is Quebec’s largest federal district. But the Bloc’s prospects don’t look good this time around. The New Democratic Party candidate is well-known Cree leader and lawyer Romeo Saganash. Should he win, he’d be the first aboriginal person to represent a region which is home to 16,000 Cree and 11,000 Inuit.

And it really didn’t help when the Bloc candidate, Yvon Lévesque, said he didn’t expect Saganash to do well because a lot of people wouldn’t want to vote for a native person.

Lévesque apologized, but Duceppe’s whistle-stop visit was obviously intended to help mend fences.

“For me, it would be unheard of to visit a city like Val d’Or without meeting with people from the first nations,” Duceppe told reporters.

And there were nice words about how aboriginal people are part of the fabric of Quebec.

“I have always said we are Quebecers without exception and in the Quebec nation, there are the 10 first nations.”

Yet except for a quick tour around the centre and a private meeting with community leaders, the Bloc didn’t make much effort to talk to the seniors gathered in the TV room or the young people huddled around table in the café.

Certainly nothing to persuade Kistabish or others on hand to change their minds.

“I just hope Romeo wins,” one woman said gleefully.

“I vote Liberal,” said Guillaume Diamond, although he confessed he’s not sure who is running for the Liberals.

“That one? No, he only speaks French,” Kistabish, who speaks fluent English, French and Cree, said of Duceppe, who also speaks English.

Kistabish said he wasn’t all that bothered by Lévesque’s remarks. He just doesn’t trust politicians.

If it’s any comfort to Duceppe, who has been campaigning vigorously to make sure the Conservatives don’t win a majority, Kistabish doesn’t have much use for Stephen Harper either.

“They are all in the same boat. He’s a liar. The big bosses everywhere – federal, Bloc, NDP, they are all liars. Promises, promises. No good. I don’t believe any of it.

“If it’s an aboriginal, a bloquiste, a federalist, it’s all the same.

“We have had it, someone who talks well, you vote for them and nothing changes. It’s all promises.”

Kistabish was asked whether he thinks we’d be better without any government at all?

“We don’t know, do we?”

pcurran@ montrealgazette.com

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  1. riding of Abitibi-Baie-James-Nunavik-Eeyou. At 843,721 square kilometres, it is Quebec’s largest federal district. But the Bloc’s prospects don’t look good this time around. The New Democratic Party candidate is well-known Cree leader and lawyer Romeo Saganash. Should he win, he’d be the first aboriginal person to represent a region which is home to 16,000 Cree and 11,000 Inuit.
    wow, this would be progress in my estimation!

    Comment by mesm — April 27, 2011 @ 4:27 am

  2. I agree

    Comment by oversion — October 6, 2012 @ 5:35 am

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